Wednesday, April 8, 2009

Woman who abandoned baby convicted without punishment




Well, I'm guessing by now everyone has heard about the tragic event that shocked the nation. Not long after boarding a Pacific Blue flight on March the 19th from Apia to Auckland, a woman suddenly gave birth to a baby girl and dumped her in the rubbish bin of the aeroplane cubicles. The mother, Karolaine Maika was 1 out of 72 other people that were hired and sent to New Zealand to work as fruit pickers. Immediately, after the baby was found, police were called as soon as the plane landed. Karolaine and her baby were taken straight to Middlemore hospital for further care.

I personally don’t understand how this woman was given permission to board the plane without people noticing that she was heavily pregnant. Before boarding a flight all passengers should be informed and aware of all rules before flying. I found on the Pacific Blue’s website, “pregnant women need medical clearance to board a flight if they’d had complications or were more than 36 weeks pregnant.” After researching this horrific event, I find it very hard to believe that absolutely no-one on the plane noticed something was wrong with this lady. You would think that the crew staff or even a person that was sitting beside her (if there was one) would have noticed how long she was gone for. Being realistic here, you can’t pop out a baby in 5 minutes, so I’m guessing she would have been in the toilets for an extensive amount of time. It is highly rare that there would have been no screaming or sounds during her labour and birth? And even if there weren’t people around at that time, I’m sure the toilets would have been covered in blood? So the next person to use the toilets would have found it a little strange. Don’t you think?

When she arrived in Auckland, “Auckland Staff became suspicious when the woman, who had misplaced her passport, approached a staff member, looking pale and blood-stained”, I mean come on, it is only natural to notice that something is wrong and pull her aside to ask a few questions. It is the staffs job to make sure every customer is well looked after. I feel that the Pacific Blue employees should be more aware of their customers and be more alert of the things that are happening around them. The rules and regulations should be stricter towards women flying whilst pregnant. They should at-least has to undergo some type of medical examination before being able to board any flight. Although staff had been “trained to check whether passenger are pregnant”, though the airline did not say whether these procedures were taken.

After this incident occurred police were likely to prosecute Karolaine after allegedly abandoning her baby. But, since appearing in Manukau’s District Court she was “convicted without punishment”. What are they showing the world? That it is okay to abandon your baby and even worse dump it in the bin and leave the airport like nothing had happened? Karolaine should have been prosecuted and not have been allowed to be reunited with her baby. Many people reckon that she should have been “charged for attempted murder” or even worse “sent straight back to Samoa and thrown into prison or locked up in New Zealand as soon as her baby was found”. New Zealand’s government should be cracking down on these types of women, avoiding and preventing this problem not helping them by giving them the easy way out. New Zealand’s government social welfare should take charge, separate mother and child for the mean while, and have Karolaine undergo psychological treatment.

Yes, I do understand how she would have been ashamed of giving birth to a child out of wedlock, but, I don’t see how she was able to just abandon her baby like that? Imagine if the cleaners chucked that bin into the next rubbish dump? Karolaine would have gotten away with murder and this innocent baby would have died. It was Karolaine’s decision to have unprotected sex so obviously there would be a high risk of getting pregnant. She should have thought about the consequences of her actions and how they would affect her life. I know the Samoan culture and I’m pretty sure they don’t tell you to throw your baby away? It was her choice she should just have just taken the crap. She should have stood up and taken possession of that innocent life. After asking a few people around school they also said that “she shouldn’t have tried so hard to condone her actions on being disowned from her family or ashamed, she should be given the right consequences”.


There are so many women in the world who are unable to have babies and I find it really sad as to how easy it was for this lady to just dump her baby in the rubbish like trash. I personally would advise all the women to realize the special gift they have been given instead of looking at it like a burden and for them to understand how lucky they are to be able to create life.

42 comments:

  1. Yea good article well written.
    Reading through it i was shocked that the staff didnt keep to their policy ,which is to under go a medical check. Also what you said about when she was givening birth in the toliet why didnt anyone hear her screaming or see the blood thats really weird. Also what was really strange when she arrived at Auckland airport that non of the staff approched her willing to help.

    Whats your comments on Pacific Blue airline company now?


    New Zealand Jutice sistem:
    Also I agree with you N.Z should of took charge and prosecuted her. In other countries if she commited that crime she would for sure be in prision or even killed.

    So tell me whats your thoughts on N.Z Jutice sistem.

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  3. I honestly think people need to do a better job at looking after all their customers. As for the lady who gave birth on the plane... well she should be ashamed of herself for dumping her own flesh and blood. She might've had a reason to do what she had to do but still its cruel and wrong to do that.

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  4. Yeah, I do understand why she done it. (because she was ashamed of having a baby out of wedlock), but the thing I find hard to understand is if knew she would have been ashamed of that she shouldn’t of had sex. It’s as simple as that. But, since she decided to, she has now been left with the consequences of falling pregnant. She should have been made to suffer the consequences for abandonment, like you said her “own flesh and blood”.

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  5. Well.. it is an irony that how come crew staff did not realize this happening on plane. I hope they do thier job better.
    Also, I absolutely understand why she done it in this way. Actually, she could give the birth to baby at home than......okay, damping her baby or what ever she wants to do. I mean, she could do that wihtout anyone knowing. So, I think,, is that the way she wants to saying something to the Government or socity? maybe.. to the baby's father..

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  6. Hey there thanks for commenting me and voicing your opinion. Yeah, I honestly can’t see how absolutely NO-ONE was able to see or hear this lady while she was giving birth I mean come on it even said in most articles that when she arrived at the airport she was covered in blood; pale and had lost her passport. How much of a hint is that? None of these stupid people that are supposedly meant to help their customers couldn’t even see or be a little suspicious about this woman. My thoughts on the New Zealand justice system is a total joke! They have all these “regulations and rules” but how are they executing this? With this woman now convicted but not punished that shows you how slack this system is. I’m kind of glad that this had happened because it has revealed the true colours of our NZ justice system. This lady has pretty much; so to say has been just given a “slap on the hand”, I think that more severe consequences should have been given. I know it’s hard to fight the law if you don't know your rights, but, it doesn’t take a scientist to figure out what she had done was wrong. I know she had her reasons, but that’s no excuse to let her off so easily. This situation could possibly give Samoans hope now that abandoning their baby is ok, and is something they can’t get punished for. I think that the New Zealand justice system is a joke. Instead of making up all these rules, they should actually act upon them.

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  7. No, I think the point of having this baby and dumping it in the bin, is not to tell the government or the father something. I think her act was purely based on her fear of being rejected in her family and in the Samoan village. But that is still no excuse to "dump a life"

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  8. Hey Oriana,
    I think that the lady shouldn't have dumped her new born, it is the worst thing to ever do. She could of atleast had the decensy to hold on to the baby untill she was off the plane or maybe in hospital and talked to some-one about not wanting the child. And the government could of taken care of that. I know she was in a bad way when she gave birth, but i really can't get my head around what this Samoan lady had done.
    God blessed women with this gift, and here this lady is chucking her baby away. I don't think she should have gotten the easy way out!

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  9. thanks renata for the comment:)
    yes i think that this woman shouldn't have been given the easy way out either and i think that the way the New Zealand justice system worked their way around this issue was very unfair. There are so many women out their who try so hard to have babies and they go to great lengths, e.g treatment and even surgery. And here this lady is with the perfect gift from god throwing away a life just like that. Yes, and i agree what you just said, she should have held on to the baby until she got help because her family wasn't on the plane or in New Zealand so she wouldn't of had to be ashamed of anything?

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  10. Hi Oriana. I think it is shocking as to how a mother can abandon her own flesh and blood like this. I personally feel that the woman should have been given some form of punishment. Do you know what has happened to the child? Is the woman now caring for it? I don't believe that a woman who is capable of dumping her own newborn in a rubbish bin is fit to take care of it. Perhaps she should not have been reunited with the child. Like you I agree that the New Zealand justice system is not tough enough. I feel that the laws are definitely too leniant. What message is the abandonment of this baby sending to the people of New Zealand? That it is okay to dump a baby and suffer no consequences? When you think about it, a message is not only being sent regarding the dumping of a baby, but a message that it is okay to act immorally and escape with just a 'slap on the hand' is also being sent. But on the other hand I suppose that no matter how tough the law is, there is no stopping some people. Regardless, it is still necessary to enforce tougher laws so as to keep some form of order.

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  11. Hey,
    Um i have just posted up something a little extra, and it's just saying what happened with the mother and child. The mother has been deported and the child (Grace) remains in Wellington and is in the care of extended family. I am too very horrified as to what type of consequences this woman had recieved. That is not right, with them showing that the only consequences was being deported back to her home country. What is this now telling others? The government is saying, just like you stated "that it is okay to act immorally and escape with just a "slap on the hand". This woman should not be granted any connection with the baby.

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  12. While I agree that to abandon a child like this is a rather callous thing to do, I am dubious of some of the sources linked to. It would be great to have more first hand (and/or) professional news (preferably New Zealand, as this is a local story) sources (The radioaustralia.net.au link is not written by Journalists or anyone with in-depth knowledge of the incident, but is instead a series of vox-pops from members of the Australian public).

    As for her deportation being a “slap on the wrist”, their is little legal recourse (nor should their be) especially seeming her mental state at the time (A family member told TV3 News that she was in a “emotionally unstable state”) and I certainly don’t think putting the mentally ill in jail is the answer to this or any other dilemma.

    What seems to have been lost in the vitriol is that this was a scared young woman who needed support and no one was there to help. Does Pacific Blue need to step their service up? Certainly. But should we take this kind of populist rage at face value without questioning if theirs more to this story than what such reputable news sources as silverscorpio.com (who’s website contains numerous spelling and grammar errors) and NewstalkZB are reporting? I for one think we shouldn’t.

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  13. Ohmygod!
    i can't believe that somebody actually did that!
    im shocked that nobody noticed that she was that heavily pregnant when she was getting onto the plane..
    I think that this is one of the worst things that anone can do. Just dump their helpless child in a rubbish bin and leave it to die. What kind of a person is she?!
    and people must have heard her giving birth.. they are just as bad as her for not doing anything!
    I think she should have definately been sent to jail, as this is sending out a bad message to everyone else in the country. Right now, NZ is compaigning to stop child abuse as "its not ok", but their actions are saying something different, baecause isn't dumping your child in a rubbish bin child abuse?
    I think her excuse of not wanting to have a baby out of wedlock is irrelevant. She was irresponsible enough to have unsafe sex and now she has to deal with the consequences. Could she not have put the baby up for adoption?
    i think the lady may be mentally ill.
    Im glad to hear that the baby is not in her care like i thought she was. At least now that child may have a chance at living a 'normal' life.

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  14. wow, this is a really well written blog. I never read about this article before reading your blog. In my opinion there is no excuse for dumping your baby in the bin. It's disgraceful behaviour from a mother. She should never had boarded that plane, the Airlines have a lot to think about, though for allowing her too. Perhaps she lied about how heavily pregnant she was? But surely she'd need some sort of medical information for proof right?

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  15. Yeah I agree with the idea of tightening up our immigration laws, Winston Peters would be proud lol.
    Did you hear? She dumped the baby because it was conceived out of wedlock and she was ashamed. Well maybe if she hadn't slept with someone who *wasn't* her husband it wouldn't have happened. Or at least used protection, that's another thing. What's the policy in Samoa about contraceptives?

    Gosh, we're in the 21st century and women are still having babies they don't want to have because they didn't utilise foresight or sensibility. But is it their fault if they're not being informed? You know what I mean?

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  16. Yeah after all my research most of the articles I read said that she was very ashamed of what she had done and purely because the baby was conceived out of marriage. And yeah to Summer, that's what i thought as well shouldn't all the workers coming from Samoa to Auckland have some type of medical record. There are still a lot of questions in my mind and feel that the Airlines should be looking into this incident. On their Pacific blue website, it clearly shows that women are not allowed to board the plane if they are more that 36weeks pregnant. Now, how are they meant to know how many months they are? That is stupid if you ask me.
    Cherushii: Hey awesome point about that NZ campaign, like you said they have all these people promoting awareness of child abuse saying that it isn’t okay, but there actions say something totally different, and yes I know why she done it because she is “mentally unstable” but, I feel that if she had a little bit of heart and care in her she would have put the baby somewhere like on the chair or something instead of chucking it away.

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  17. I can't understand what was going through this women's head during the time she found out she was pregnant to the point where she gave birth. If she didn't want the baby, couldn't she have had an abortion? If it was too late to abort the baby by the time she knew, she could have put the child up for adoption once it was born. Either way she would have been giving birth!!

    I've actually heard a few stories where women don't know they're pregnant THEMSELVES until they give birth! Shocking but true.

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  18. Hey Aaron,
    Yeah exactly that's what i find wierd, this lady knew that she was pregnant, because she was intending on going to wellington and leave the baby there. She should have just given birth, kept the baby, held on to it till she got some help or went to the hospital, and then given it to her brother. It's not like her family was over and watching her every move so there is no reason as to why she should have been ashamed while giving birth on the plane. It's stupid if you ask me. I know she was in shock, but that is the worse place to put your baby.

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  19. I really like your topic. I thought people don't abandon their babies in NZ! I mean.. if they gonna abandon their baby, they SHOULDNT gave birth! I don't mean they should have an abortion, but I don't know what to say. I'm just sorry for babies. but it was good that she haven't had abortion. i think killing baby is worse thing. dont you?

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  20. I don’t understand how everyone blaming the crew and ground staff for a crime committed by a cold-blooded customer. The women hidden the fact she is pregnant, she dump her own newborn baby in the airport, but people are accusing staffs not doing their job probably?

    How could airline staffs improve their service if customers are lying to them? In fact, they are not baby sitters, they will not hold your hand and sing a song for you. Each ground staff process 30-40 travelers per flight in average, each flight attendant need to serve as much as 50 seats on a flight, so please don’t expect they will treat you like a king, as what Ryanair CEO Michael O’Leary said before “An airplane is nothing more than a bus with wings on”.

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  21. Hey sunny,
    I am saying that they should have noticed this lady was in the plane cubilcle for a while and not only that, if she was the last person of the plane, "blood-stained" and pale. Obviously the crew staff would have been a little suspicious. Yes, they should do their job properly and notice that if this lady had been in the toilet for that long and just finally come out when the plane landed, i mean someone would have noticed this woman. I know you said that the crew staff have to look after so many passengers. But it was pretty obvious when she was the last one off the plane. And her appearence showed that she was destressed.
    And to SeungEun, yes i do believe that dumping the baby is the worst thing to ever do.
    Thanks for all your comments:)

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  22. Dumping a life is wrong and the part about her getting deported while Grace stays in NZ thats kinda unfair and the bit about her mother being covered in blood, losing her passport and and looking pale should be more than enough of an obvious sign for her to be questioned.



    By the way nicely done =)

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  24. hey there thanks for the comment:)
    yes i fully agree about what you have written:)
    what do you think should have happend to the baby Grace and the mother?

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  25. Good question, should the baby reunion with her mother in Samoa after all this? But if she stays here she will be an orphan. But I guess normally what they do is send the baby back to Samoa and get the social worker follow the case.

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  26. I agree with what Sunny said.

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  27. But, don't you think the baby will be in more stable/safe hands if she is here, being brought up with Maika's brother? And

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  28. Very interesting topic. I'm quite shocking when i heard the news. I can not understand why the mother is so crucial to abandon their own baby! Every life is valuable, no matter whether it is a girl or boy, no matter if he or she is health or not.

    As far as I know, in some Asian countries, people prefer boys to girls. I do hate this kind of culture! I think both Boy and girl are good.

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  29. What's more, I do hope that government should take some method or establish some law or rules so that this kind of issues will not happen again.

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  30. no one mentioned so far the woman's family or the biological father of the baby..are they without guilt? It would be amazing if we all had the strenght to stand up for ourselves against everything and everyone that constitutes our world..but is it that easy?

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  31. angela- i don't think the reason for dumping her is because the baby was a girl, it was because she had the baby out of wedlock (something i had talked about in the blog) but thanks for your opinion:)and yes i really do hope that this situation stops, i know that the governments actions towards this situation wasn't the outcome that most people expected, but i really do hope that Samoan families realise what women put up with, and the pressures of family.
    jenga-Yes, i have been looking for information about the womans family and the father of the baby, but i have not had any luck with that yet. And no i don't think it would be that easy just to stand up for what you believe in, but, i guess if you really feel strong about something and everyone else feels the same way there could be atleast something to do to make people aware of the issue? what do you think ?:)

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  32. do so wonder how noone knew what was happening in the place where it is so closed up.The mother.. no the woman should have at least had a contraceptive operation if she didn't want her baby to be unborn out in the world. Have you seen the movie The Unborn? I've blocking and shutting my ears and eyes all the way through the movie was showing.. just came into my head reading your txt anyway I surely agree with people who are wanting the woman to be punished with what she has done. Terrible. I would never be able do such a cruel thing like her to my baby... poor one

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  33. Well, good topic!

    If you go to China, you may feel shocked because this phenomen happens almost everyday. You can hear such news from newspaper or radio, you know what, because of"one child"policy and some old tradion, many Chinese people especially those from countryside want a boy in the family, that is the only goal for them to have children, therefore, once they have a girl, they plan to abandon her and repregnant again, just because they think only a boy could regenerate their family. How stupid they are, how cruel for them to do this! But, it is the fact.

    Another case is that some parents have no obligation and responsibility, they abandon their disable children because they can not afford the treatment expense.

    Fortunately, Chinese government realizes its seriousness, issued a law which is involved in "punishment of abandon children".

    But,will it stop such inhuman behavior in the future? we will see...

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  34. just reading through your comments, and i know im kinda late, but i think that the baby will have a MUCH better life growing up with her relatives, rather than with her mentally unstable mother.

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  35. Yan Qi bought out a good point. If you walk through the streets of China you can find a lot of children being abandoned by their brith parents.

    Lemme recall the last time I went back to China...

    -recalling-



    ahh Now I remember.... Me and my cousin was walking on an overhead bridge to get to the other side (traffic in China can be dangerous therefore you use an overheard bridge) We came across probably closed to about 1/2 a dozen abanodoned children on the birdge begging for money. Aparently my cousin told me their boss would beat them up if they don't make enough money or something. Kinda harsh. I also saw a homeless lady with ehr ill baby desprately in need of money for hospital expenses. We would've given them our loose change but the thing is we couldnt. we wanted to it's just we saw 1 person did that and he nearly got into big trouble. I feel bad for them but sometimes you never whose watching so you kinda have to be careful

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  37. Hey there girl,
    Straight up with you on that point of people sshould cherish the fact of being able to bring such a beautiful gift of 'Life' into this world, its such a precious and life fulfilling thing. Pretty much thats how we live, to bring up and look after your own. I know some very close people that have been trying and denied to bring a gift into this world and yet they are the most loving and deserving people to become parents or grandparents. Then you have those people who fully take it for granted and throw it away, IN THE RUBBISH BIN!!! that just makes me so angry and fully the new zealand government shgould get behingd this and buck up their ideas on giving this women the max punishment. will continue this comment soon..hehe..

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  38. Yan Qi-thanks for giving me an insight into your culture/country, I know that this type of situation happens all the time there, but, the shocking thing is, is that it has happened in New Zealand. A place where people are trying to prevent child abuse. This woman didn’t dump this baby because it was a girl or a boy or because it was disabled, she dumped it because she had given birth out of wedlock. We are in the 21st century. The Samoan society (especially women) should realize that if they do ever get pregnant, instead of abandoning their children, there are such things called contraceptives.
    Cherushii-yes, I agree with you on that one I too think that baby Grace should remain in New Zealand with Maika’s extended family. People would assume that she is an orphan (which she is), but in actual fact she would only know Maika’s brother as her father. I think that staying in New Zealand Grace would have a better life. She would be cared for and looked after. Instead of being reunited with the unfit mother. Over time the mother could possibly overcome all her stress, but what if she is still stuck with the burden of having her baby out of marriage? This could be very unhealthy for the baby and its environment. What do you think ?
    Chelz-Yeah I have known someone also that has been trying so hard to conceive a child. They have undergone many treatments and have failed. And to hear that this lady has been given the most previous gift of all, and just dump it like that, infuriates me. I would never in my wildest dreams be able to ever do something like this to my own flesh and blood. It would make me sick. No matter whether I was disowned for having a child I would have kept it. But in her case she had an option. She could have been taken to the hospital and put her up for adoption. Obviously her family wouldn’t have been there so there wouldn’t of been anything to be ashamed about.

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  39. ohmygod!
    is china really like that?
    how sad =[
    but jus coz other people do it that still doesnt make it any better.
    if her real reason for dumping the baby was her issue with not being married, then i dont think that that is going to go away very fast.
    i think that she may resent that child for the rest of her life if she had to look after it. the child has been through enough already. When she is older, she will not remember being dumped in a rubbish bin, but, if she is made to live with her mother, i am sure she will not be loved as much as by her uncle. this could actually be a lot more emotionally scarring than the dumping at her birth.
    does that make sense?
    lol im not sure i expressed that very well.

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  40. hey
    I strongly agree with you that is a good point that you have brought up and i think that Grace will be in better hands if she was in the care of her uncle. But if she is taken back to Samoa who knows what could happen. She may be mis-treated the mother may even dis-own her? I don't think that the mother should be able to see Grace ever. Let the child get on with it's own life.

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  41. Wow I was disguested by that lady's action. These things happen many times but this is really not acceptable. But I also think the blame is on Pacific Blue as well. The police need to investigate how they operate their business. I hope this incident correct the people who is doing the wrong things.

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  42. Yes, I agree Hitomi the actions of this lady is horrific. I don't think no human being deserves to be treated in such a way. I really hope that what the government decided about the situation and what happened to Maika, doesn't influence others to act in such a way. and i hope that this doesn't happen again. But thanks for your feedback:)

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